@rysiek What did I miss? Seems at least the server repo has been updated - about time!

@rysiek Hmm. Mixed feelings about this one... In your opinion, is this an all-bad thing or are there some uptakes to it?

@h3artbl33d look, I recognize that many places in this world have no reasonable banking services available, and that a lot of people have no access to digital payments that would otherwise make their lives better.

If you ever tried sending any money to Africa, or, you know, between EU and US, you know what I mean here.

At the same time, Signal Desktop remains crap ("optimizing database" ⏳, and then words appear seconds after I type them) and Signal mobile tends to fall minutes behind Desktop.

@h3artbl33d plus, there are no Signal clients for a number of privacy-friendly platforms (SailfishOS, postmarketOS, Librem5, PInePhone, or you know: any mobile OS that is not Android or iOS).

*And* moxie refuses to federate because "too much work to keep up".

Dunno, maybe instead of going full crypto Signal could fix Desktop (and drop Electron in the process), and write a client for at least one non-duopolistic mobile platform?

@rysiek @h3artbl33d when we were doing Ubuntu Phone, Signal was actively hostile to us making a client.

...reason we ended up with good Telegram support.

@ted @rysiek @h3artbl33d

He was asked at 36c3 after his talk was over if: with the existance of postmarketOS that boots in a ton of devices, and the Librem 5 and the Pinephone if they would finally consider making a fully featured native mainline linux app.

His reply at the time was that; making clients for different platforms is hard, adding a new platform is hard, and maybe these platforms should look for a way to run the android app.

@maryjane @ted @h3artbl33d yeah, everything is hard, and Signal is so strapped for cash that after that 50mln USD donation some years ago they're spending what scarce resources they have on adding cryptocurrency to Signal.

Give me a fscking break.

@rysiek @maryjane @ted @h3artbl33d know what else is not hard? not publishing code while claiming "open source", keeping control of the center while claiming to build a secure and private platform. going full cryptoscam. because you know, think of the people and the poor. the children!

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@zeh @rysiek @maryjane @h3artbl33d today I looked and it seems they've started pushing the server code again.

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